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 Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 04:30 pm
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What are the ranges for a stand up technique? How can you measure it? And when do you use a stand up technique?

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 11:16 pm
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You can measure it by wins and losses. You use a stand up technique when your standing up. A pretty effective one is Muay Thai.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 12:28 am
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sprawler wrote: You use a stand up technique when your standing up.

Thanks for the clarification, this explanation was one I did not realize.

Yes, that's sarcasm Sprawler.



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You can measure it in the effectiveness of your stiking and the ablity to avoid takedowns.

It helps if you can sprawl and if you can hit where you are aiming effectively.

A mix of effective punches and kicks help.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 10:09 pm
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Sorry for the sarcasm :) You generally stand when you believe your ground game is not as good as your opponent's.

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If we assume that "Stand Up Fighting" refers to fighting while standing then it is probably best for us to think of "Stand Up" in two phases as originally described by John Danaher in his book Mastering Jujutsu.

The first of these two stand up phases is called the free motion phase. In the free motion phase neither fighter has a grip on the other. This means that each fighter is free to move about as the other figher is not controlling them with a grip.

During the free motion phase martial arts that emphasize striking such as boxing and muay thai tend to offer the best techniques. Common techniques seen in the free motion phase of mma fights include the following: jabs, crosses, hooks, uppercuts, roundhouse kicks, front kicks, knee strikes, elbow strikes. Takedowns such as the double leg and single leg can also be initiated from the free motion phase.

The second phase of stand up fighting is called the clinch phase. During the clinch phase the two fighters are still standing but now they are gripping one another and therefore their free movement is restricted by their opponents grip. Martial arts that emphasize fighting from the clinch are muay thai, dirty boxing, freestyle and greco roma wrestling, and judo.

While in the clinch phase opponents may try to control their opponents and deliver strikes, they may try to take their opponent down to the ground phase, or they may try to break free of the clinch and return to the free motion phase and resume striking. Common attacks seen in the clinch phase are knees, elbows, short punches such as hooks and uppercuts, trips, throws, and a variety of other takedowns.

In general, mma fighters will base their strategies on their strengths and their opponents weaknesses. For example Chuck Liddell has proven to be a very dangerous striker in the free motion phase so his strategy is to try and stay in the free motion phase and knock his opponent out. If someone clinches with him or takes him down his strategy is always to break the clinch and return to the standing free motion phase.

A fighter such as Tito Ortiz will have a different strategy. Wrestling is Ortiz's strength so his strategy is usually to quickly move through the free motion phase to the clinch phase by securin a grip on his opponent. He will then attempt to move to the ground phase by performing a takedown. Once on the ground Tito generally uses his wrestling skills to control his opponent and deliver strikes until a tko occur.

Once a fighter knows his/her strategy in terms of the phases they want to concentrate on and the ones that they want to avoid then they can begin concentrating on the techniques within the phases that best accomplish their goal.

I apologize for the long answer but it is a very complicated question to address. If you could provide with a little bit of information on what you want to know and why then I can probably be more specific in helping you.

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I think what SidRon is trying to say is that you use a stand up technique when standing up. Just to clarify.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 04:09 am
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You uses Stand Up effectively as long as you can stand. See Rampage-Griffin.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 04:48 am
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sprawler wrote: I think what SidRon is trying to say is that you use a stand up technique when standing up. Just to clarify.
Still trying to figure out if you're the dumbest smart person I know or the smartest dumb person.

Nice Post though, I put it as a blog on the site as well.



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 Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 08:16 pm
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Amazingly insightful

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 Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 06:13 pm
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I measure my stand up in inches, either with a footlong ruler or yardstick. No metric for me. lol I also measure it by how many barfights I win whether I knock him out or slam him around on his head



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 Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 06:59 pm
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Great Metircs...

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Using your jab is a great way to measure your standup range.After all in a fight you will use it to test your range, because with every oppent it will be different.Besides that, it all about knowing your own body and the area that you can with your movements.The only way to really find your range is to do lot's of sparring.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 3rd, 2008 10:02 pm
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I think first, that your range changes in each and every fight

and second, that the question was how do we determine our success in stand up fighting.

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no way jose, i do believe that Trulyana is trying to figure out how he can measure his standup in comparison to someone elses, all sarcasm aside though...get in some fights with strangers and see if you get knocked out or if you're standing watching them quiver on the ground, it's prehistoric and rather illegal advice but i'm not a professional, my stand up's alright because i've never been knocked out or lost



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